凯拉·奈特莉《时尚芭莎》采访录

You do get more confident as you get older.

随着年龄的增长，你确实会越来越自信。

I don't know why that is, I guess you've experienced more, you've gone through the highs and lows already, you just have kind of like a a better sense of yourself.

我不知道为什么，我猜是你经历了更多，你已经经历了高潮和低谷，你对自己有了更好的认识。

You also understand that you're never going to please everybody, and that's an impossible thing to go with.

你也明白，你永远不可能让每个人都满意，这是不可能的。

So I think you just kind of have the confidence to go: This is me, and you're not all going to like it, but that's fine.

所以我认为你应该有信心去说：这就是我，可能不是你们所有人都会喜欢，但没关系。

But it's really nice when you have a day when you're feeling really confident.

但当你有一天自信满满地做自己想做的事时，那真的很棒。

Oh style is about doing what you want.

风格就是做你想做的事。

Style is about making yourself feel good, and if you feel good, then you'll look good.

风格就是让你自己感觉良好，如果你感觉良好，那么你看起来也会很不错。

When I was six, I had two track suits and they were shell suits, and one was like pink and white, and the other one was black and purple and green.

我六岁的时候有两套运动服，都是休闲套装，一套是粉色和白色的，另一套是黑色、紫色和绿色的。

And I love them, and that's all I'd wear.

我很喜欢它们，我只穿这两套衣服。

And over the last year, the same thing has happened, and I've got two track suits, and one is blue and one is green.

在过去的一年里，同样的事情发生了，我有两套运动服，一套是蓝色的，一套是绿色的。

And I've just worn that.

我刚刚还穿过。

So I think style has gone out the window.

所以我认为风格已经被抛到九霄云外了。

But I've been like really comfortable.

不过我感觉很舒服。

How do I stand up for what I believe in and how do I know my worth?

我如何坚持我的信仰，我如何知道自己的价值？

I think again you get a sense of self like you get a sense of what you're okay with and what you're not okay with.

我认为你有一种自我意识，就像你有一种你能接受什么和你不能接受什么的感觉。

Not worrying as much about pleasing absolutely everybody.

不用担心要取悦所有人。

You have the freedom to walk away.

你有离开的自由。

And through the freedom to walk away, I think you know what will make you stay and you know the sort of people that you want to work with and you know how you want to be treated and therefore how you're going to treat other people.

通过离开的自由，我认为你就知道什么会让你留下来，你知道你想要和什么样的人一起工作，你知道你希望别人如何对待你，因此你又会如何对待别人。

So I think that gives you a sort of sense of worth.

所以我认为这就给了你一种价值感。

I think success is a funny one.

我认为成功是一个有趣的东西。

I think because you can be incredibly successful and not feel incredibly successful, and I think success is different for everybody.

因为你可以非常成功，但却不觉得自己非常成功，我认为成功对每个人来说都是不同的。

So I think you can't use other people as your benchmark, I think you have to find what feels right for you.

所以我认为你不能把别人作为你的基准，你必须找到适合你的东西。

I did always know that I wanted to work in acting.

我一直都知道我想从事演艺工作。

Yes, I think you need to have a very thick skin, so I think if you don't have one, then you need to go about trying to get one quite quickly.

是的，我认为你需要脸皮很厚，所以我认为如果你没有的话，那么你需要尽快弄一个。

Oh, you never deal with unfair criticism.

你永远无法平静接受不公平的批评。

I mean it always hurt, it doesn't matter how old you get.

不管你多大，你总是会受伤。

Really generally speaking, the people who are unfairly criticizing you as opposed to fairly criticizing you which is different, are normally the people that don't know you and therefore kind of what are they basing it on anyway.

一般来说，那些不公正地批评你的人与公正地批评你的人是不同的，他们通常都是不了解你的人，所以他们这样做的依据又能是什么呢。

So I think it always kind of helps to sort of take a step back and go actually what are we talking about.

所以我认为退一步想想我们到底在说什么总是有所帮助的。

And as soon as you realize that, it's all just puff and it's a bit silly and it kind of makes you feel better.

一旦你意识到这一点，就会觉得这一切都只是胡言乱语，有点愚蠢，就会让你感觉更好一些。

But it hurts at the time.

但当下会很伤人。

You always go through the moment when it hurts before you can get the perspective on it to go like: oh, no, I'm fine.

你总是会经历痛苦的时刻，然后才能对它有一个正确的态度：哦，不，我没事的。

What empowers me I think is a sense of autonomy, freedom over choices, and a sense of being my own self and making my own decisions, and seeing other people do that as well.

我认为赋予我力量的是一种自主感，对选择的自由，一种做我自己、做我自己决定的感觉，以及看到其他人也这样做的感觉。

I learn about feminism.

我了解女权主义。

Until we're all free, none of us are free.

在我们都获得自由之前，没有人是自由的。

And until we all have equality, none of us have equality.

在我们人人平等之前，没有人是平等的。

And so the fight continues.

所以战斗还在继续。

I hope that they continue the fight; I hope that they know their own worth; I hope that they expect that if they put as much work in as their male counterpart, then they should be rewarded in the same way.

我希望她们继续战斗；我希望她们知道自己的价值；我希望她们认为，如果她们和男性同事付出了同样多的工作，那么她们也应该得到同样的回报。

And that they should be treated with respect and treat others with respect.

她们应该受到尊重，也应该尊重他人。

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